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In this episode of Hackers & Humans, I sit down with cybersecurity researcher Kim Crawley for a deep dive into one of the most misunderstood corners of the internet: the darknet. Kim has spent years researching dark web markets, phishing kits, and the cybercrime supply chain—so she knows exactly how criminals operate and how defenders can stay ahead.

We break down the real darknet—how Tor was originally developed by the U.S. government, how illicit marketplaces function, and why navigating these spaces is easier than most people think. From stolen data and ransomware tools to phishing-as-a-service, the dark web isn’t just a black market—it’s an entire ecosystem fueling today’s cyber threats.

This conversation couldn’t be more relevant. AI-driven phishing, deepfake scams, and corporate breaches are accelerating, and the line between personal and professional security keeps getting blurrier. Kim shares why cybersecurity culture needs to change, how organizations should rethink their defenses, and why education—not just technology—is key to fighting modern threats.

We also get into the reality of breaking into cybersecurity as a career—what certifications actually matter, how to get experience without spending a fortune, and why many “entry-level” roles aren’t what they seem.

Watch (or listen) to the full episode to hear us break down:

• What the darknet actually is—and why Tor is still a go-to tool

• How phishing kits and ransomware tools get sold like eBay listings

• The shifting role of AI in cybercrime (and what’s next for deepfakes)

• Why corporate culture—not just tech—determines security success

• Practical career advice for anyone trying to break into cybersecurity

Kim’s latest project is The Ultimate Cybersecurity Careers Guide, now live on Kickstarter. If you’re looking for real-world guidance on certifications, training, and career paths, check it out: linktr.ee/kimcrawley.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Darknet

06:02Navigating the Darknet: Tools and Resources

11:54Unlawful Activities on the Darknet

18:02 Phishing Kits and Cybercrime Supply Chains

25:27The Dark Web and Its Disturbing Markets

28:00Emerging Cyber Threats: AI and Deepfakes

30:18 The Importance of Education in Cybersecurity

32:12 Corporate Culture and Cybersecurity Awareness

38:16 Navigating Cybersecurity Careers and Certifications